| : is your Naichau Kamo in a thin case or a regular case? |
| : KAMO KAMO KAMO KAMO |
| : thin |
| : hm |
| : interesting |
| : I want to know when MM switched over to thin cases |
| : it seems most of H!P's non-MM groups and artists have had thin case singles |
| : since forever |
| : but all my MM singles are regular-size |
| : I got the regular version, so maybe the thick cases are only for non-DVD versions to save money for MM |
| : probably |
| : but for the rest of the groups, they just always went for the cheap, thin one |
| : but MM used to have thick cases for regular editions too |
| : or they started using thick cases with Happy Summer Wedding |
| : Koi no Dance Site had a thin case |
| : I have most of their singles from HSW to Iroppoi |
| : and they're all regular size |
| : maybe they started recently for cost saving measures after seeing how much is saved earlier? |
| : and all but one of them are regular edition |
| : Buono! and Koha are exceptions |
| : they both have full-size cases |
| : Platinum 9 Disc has a normal sized case, and the stuff I see in Japantown usually does too for H!P singles |
| : hm |
| : P9D is an album |
| : the thin cases are only for singles |
| : On the otherhand, Avex's artists usually have HUGE cases, like 2x the size of a normal CD case |
| : hm |
| : hahahaa |
| : The one Avex single I have is a one-shot deal, so it's normal-sized (It's the Koda and Misono colab one) |
| : hm |
| : I'm going to search Yahoo! Auctions Japan |
| : okais |
| : and see when MM switched over |
| : this will be interesting... |
| : binary search go! |
| : (assuming it's monotonic) |
| : that is, they didn't switch over, then switch back, then switch over again |
| : hm |
| : ok |
| : Kanashimi Twilight is definitely full size for the regular edition |
| : http://page16.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/u30048514 |
| : so some point after that? |
| : and... |
| : Pepper Keibu looks like a thin case |
| : http://page7.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/g71133511 |
| : I know Mikan is normal, they have the regular edition of that in Japantown |
| : and Resonant Blue is full-size case |
| : http://page8.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/h131642301 |
| : so it looks like MM switched back to thin cases starting with Pepper Keibu |
| : Happy Summer Wedding through Resonant Blue ... what an era |
| : so it must be at Pepper Keibu |
| : yeah |
| : does this mean MM's prime was between HSW and RB? |
:  :-o |
| : did anyone even notice when the Era ended? |
| : D-: |
| : Prime money-wise I guess, if our theory is right |
:  :( |
| : *sigh* |
| : huh? |
| : I think the whole Jpop industry is going down in sales. Because of the internet, many say it's now impossible to get a platinum record |
| : in any country |
| : looks like Tan Tan Taan! also had a thin case |
| : ah |
| : hmm |
| : so even the KiraRevo releases got hit |
| : Morning Musume's singles actually have stayed fairly even in the last few years considering they've been put on iTunes now |
| : yeah, Hapi Hapi Sunday was also thin case |
| : :( |
| : http://www.musictvprogram.com/corner-ranking-album.html ? |
| : did Buono! stay full case? |
| : Their album was, and the stuff I've seen in Japantown would suggest it... |
| : looks like Buono! still is full case |
| : :-o |
| : albums are always full case |
| : but Buono!'s singles have been full case too |
| : so they're still in their prime! ^_^ |
| : unfortunately, nobody else in H!P is ... :-o |
| : On the list mp posted, the most recent album on there is from 12/2008 and the highest ranked from 2008 is 99th. |
| : the most recent in the top 10 is 2002, and the rest are from '98-'01 |
| : It also appears that most overall are from '98-'02, which is when MM had the most success |
| : hm |
| : true |
| : 2002 is also when illegal music downloads started to become a problem, and online music stores such as iTunes started becoming popular |
| : the highest ranked one from beyond those years is from 2005, and is #69 |
| : that's the first one for a large grouping of ones actually |
| : there's also only 5/275 from 2008 |
| : It really shows that the peak of the Japanese music industry was just when Morning Musume peaked. |
| : I think that even with AKB doing so well, because of the decline in the industry as a whole, even if they sell 300000 singles a year, it would still take them 36.6 years to overtake MM |
| : as the best overall selling girl group |
| : assuming that MM only sold 11000000 singles, but I think it's closer to 12000000 |
| : hm |
| : Also, even Avex's artists have been really suffering in sales lately. Koda Kumi and Ayumi tended to sell upwards of 300000 and 500000 respectively |
| : are barely reaching 75000 and 130000 |
| : I wonder if the record industry will ever start accounting for sales made on iTunes, etc. |
| : Hopefully. Otherwise, Platinum, gold, and even silver albums will be a thing of the past |
| : Indeed. |
